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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 5, 2007 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Dwindling views...

WOW! I was just reading through my past posts and realized an interesting tidbit. Back in June when I began posting here, ALL of my posts were viewed 125-150 times. Since then, the number of views has consistently dwindled for any given post. I can scroll through my list of posts and the #'s don't lie. Down from the 100's to the teens! All due to the sheer volume of activity.

It's great that so many have joined, but the value of a post is now sub-peso...

So, no more "just my 2 cents", that's too rich for this forum. Welcome friends. Glad we all made our ways here.:)->

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Jan 5, 2007 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

We have had our differences, but that seems so long ago- I want to say your input has been valuable for me- Only you can judge if the thought and vibe that goes into you starting a post is worth your time- and if the number of views is your measure- then I respect that-

Losing your insights, replies, banter, occasional sarcasm, etc will be a big loss if you stop posting-

A wise man once said at a meeting in which I spoke (a place sort of like a wharf rats meeting) that I do not have to reach all 60 people in the room that night with my experience strength and hope- THe true measure is reaching just ONE person- and even if I failed to do that, I was enriched as a result of the sharing.

I feel the same here- My babble is tolerated for some unknown reason- but once in awhile someone will say "thanks for the tip on that song..."- when that happens I am overjoyed- And I have no expectation that my "leads" will make someone smile- but if they do- WOW

High Flow, do what you need to do- but you are a piece of the crazy mosaic that is LMA GD forum today and we would all lose a lot more than ONE person if you stop posting-

Each one of us is a composite of all of our live's experience- when you share with us you share the collective wisdom of all who have met you and grokked with you- I for one think that losing your posts would be truly sad- but perhaps another William Tell or Deadmax will come along to fill the huge void

This post was modified by Liamfinnegan on 2007-01-06 03:16:00

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 5, 2007 7:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Hey Liam - Thanks for the kind post. I am not going anywhere. I am pretty sure I've become addicted to GD forum. Is there a meeting for that?

It was really just an observation. I urge you to take a moment and click on your name, my name, dire and others you know, just scroll from most recent on-down and watch the # of views column, it's amazing!

Even in September, ALL posts(not just 'new' threads) were viewed by 100's of people.

It is what it is. I say, the more the merrier. This just happens to be an interesting result! That's all.

For the last time, I'm staying. So stop trying to whack my character!;)

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 7:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

see... you all really do have a soft side... :)

that was put very nicely Liam.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

i dont have a soft side

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Liar! =P

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

you just don't know me well enough my friend - i fake it well

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

I don't believe you. I know different.


but if you'd like I'll keep your secret, (as well as Rob's), and we won't tell anyone.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

oohhhhh - pooop on you ;)

(rob's secret???? do tell!!!!) - lol

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

sshhhh...it's the same as yours! go read 'I'm laughing' thread I started...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 5, 2007 7:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

If we can trust ourselves, given the results of the '101 test only' post, it is safe to say that there are more than 100 of us, and we are just spread a bit thinner than before...

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

For me, the posts seem to be more personal so I don't read some of them because I can see that, I think, they are meant for someone else.

I'm not being ugly it's just that a lot of posts turn into conversations and I can pretty much predict who is going to respond to whom, so I just don't even look. Not accusing or objecting, just noting.

So....some people might not be viewing because they know it's going to basically be between the same two or six people so they don't look. NOT judging.

Everyone needs to keep doing what they are doing and if someone else fits in then so be it, but it does seem that a lot of threads get hijacked by people and taken off-course from the lurker-would-be-poster who doesn't post again because of the hijacking. Judging now. :-)

Some people are reluctant to post (I'm not one of them) and when they finally do the "conversations" could make them not want to post again. Again, now I'm judging.

Just my observations.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

i must say i agree with you. but i can't see how we can change us at this point at times. lurkers have to find a way to fit in with a sense of humor, a jib or jab here or there and slide there way in slowly. i don't know. maybe slide their way in on a serious post to get thier name in and then move into some other crap like Harold has - he has gotten his name out here lately and he is new and has seemed to fit in slowly but surely.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

True, Dire, and there is nothing "to do".

Now upon thinking about it (and after a VERY long day and realizing that I am going to QUIT the job I have had for Seven years) I do think that sometimes people who aren't so much "Assholes" and are just wanting to be a part of something, indeed, ARE put off by you fucking bunch of assholes (present company excluded and by that I mean - me) and the "conversations" that are carried out in the name of sarcasm and ... asshole-ness.

I seem to jest but it is partly true.


But I don't have the answer for inclusion except to act like we WANT to include people instead of having them just read our thoughts.


I, too, was hesitant to chime in at first but then I had to remind myself that it really didn't matter in the first place 'cuz I could just "not post". I definitely don't feel like I'm one of the "in" people here but luckily I have always felt that way in anything I have done so it just feels like "normal" to me.


Rambling, I know, and the hour is late, but I think a lot of people could contribute if given a chance but, in all ineffectiveness, I don't have the magic answer either.


I guess if my happiness depends on other people, then I DO have a problem.

This post was modified by deadmax on 2007-01-06 05:55:03

This post was modified by deadmax on 2007-01-06 06:32:42

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

first, I think you are one of the 'in' people... for me anyway. :) but even if you weren't posting anymore max, you would still be a part of my world because of 'hook.

and second, I'm really glad that discussions like this thread are happening.

I would like the lurkers to come out and join in. I hope that the last few days have helped to paint a different picture, for everyone. If all the joking about 'drama' being addictive is true, then they've been reading the threads.

Maybe now that the boat has righted itself it will be stronger to withstand any rough seas that might want to tip it over again...

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Boy are you on the wrong boat!


Have you ever listened to these people? I mean, my god, the drivel and senseless goings-on are quite a spectacle in and of themselves.


But, I have been trying to think of a way to make all of the lurkers post without having to feel like they have to be witty or sarcastic or - whatever. Every now and then I come up with something but it joins with all my dreams that seem to make sense right as I wake up but, of course, just slip away down the coffee highway.


Any thoughts on how we could do that?


Give away a car maybe? A cruise?


I don't know, but I do know I would like to hear from them especially because I know they must be more interesting than us! :-)

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Well Max, and anyone else reading out there...
especially those that may be wondering about me and scratching their heads and thinking the same thing you wrote in your 'HTF' post...

I have pages (yes, I said pages) of e-mails, from forum members, guys here on LMA, that make me feel like I'm on the right boat.

yes, it's been a rough boat ride... (I've been wearing my life persever since I got here), but I'm still here, and have been asked time and again to stay. and I figure I must be bringing some good vibes to somebody, or I would have been asked to leave.

So I stay.
any lurkers that would like to come say hello to me, please do.... you don't have to be funny or smart or anything.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

I never really know what to say on 'hook.

I love the people, don't get me wrong. Even the porn-addicted Tubeman.

It's late and I'm rambling (yet, for some reason, still awake).


Not looking for sympathy, but I usually don't "feel" like I fit in so I just say whatever I want to and leave it at that but these lurkers might not be as adventurous as me. (Again, I'm trying to draw attention to the lurkers - not myself. Just using myself - in all honesty - as an example)

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

see I don't agree with you... I think you absolutely fit in at 'hook, even if you aren't sure of what to say. There are tons of threads I don't answer there for the same reason.

and I really feel like you fit in here too. Maybe you're just insecure, but trust me, from my end of it, you are laugh-out-loud funny (most of the time) and I know I'm not the only one to tell you that.

besides we are buds, mr. deadmax, and if I stay you stay. you don't have to stay at both places, but you have to stay at one (at least)!
:)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 10:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

"I definitely don't feel like I'm one of the "in" people here but luckily I have never felt that way in anything I have done so it just feels like "normal" to me."

shit dude - what you talkin about willis?? how else are you goin to feel like one of the "in people" here other than what you have been doin man???? i kinda thought you have been one of us from your first post! you gotta be jokin

and that is my point for some of the lurkers.... just hop on in... yeah, your inate sense or inane humor may not be like deadmax but, so what.... you will learn to flow with us... give us a shot - we are idiots at times, but we are damn friendly idiots and very forgiving (well, usually, barrin some misplaced sarcasm)

edit - i just caught the slight that you called me an asshole - thanks


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Poster: JodyC Date: Jan 5, 2007 6:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Aren't the number of replies more relevant to the number of views? If a bunch of people view but don't respond, what has that actually achieved. Or is that what Dire meant? I assume we look for feedback, no?

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 5, 2007 6:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Make of it what you will....the point is fewer people are seeing every post you write...a lot fewer! Thus, fewer opportunities for an answer to your query or takers for a trade.

I really don't care if folks respond. I read many, many, many more posts than those I reply to. But, when I DO have a trade to offer or some of my oh-so-sought-after advice, you, and all the others have a very short window of opportunity to cash-in!

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Poster: JodyC Date: Jan 6, 2007 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Having given this a bit more thought, I think the change in the forum posts from 6 months months ago may have a lot to with it. Before we became more friendly, it was more music related which no doubt attracted more vieweres. As we became more familiar with each other it became more of a chat room woth lots of "inside jokes" as my daughter would say, more info shared about our personal likes and dislikes that were often not music related, and just some odd ball ranting, raving diatribes that the casual lurker would no doubt read and surmise-what the fuq. I'm as guitly as anyone because admittedly, my depth of knowledge of various shows, songs, and musical inuendo is rather limited resulting in favorite beers, Bobby with a beard, Direwolf as Skipper threads that Im sure turn off the casual observer. See what a good night sleep can do for an old mans thinking (assuming one agrees with this thought process).

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Poster: JodyC Date: Jan 5, 2007 9:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

True.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

that is what email is for too (i think- either that or i should just dump you bozos off my address list)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 5, 2007 6:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

that is not due to the amount of activity my friend. it may just be the quality of your recent posts ;)

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 5, 2007 6:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

Oh, I knew YOU would go there. Hey man, when I got here there was still and echo in the room.

Which reminds me of that show where Bobby Weir says "This old barn's startin' to fill up. We were waiting for more people, but we had to start. So, if you were here early, you can say to the person next to.."Where were you? We waited as long as we could..."".

What show was that??? Anyone of the 14 people who will get a chance to read this have an answer??

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Poster: ducats Date: Jan 5, 2007 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dwindling views...

the old Boston Garden?